Monday, July 25, 2011

Who can see your "replies" & "mentions"?

The rule of thumb on who among your followers can see your replies and mentions, in their "home" or "all friends", feed, is this:

1. If the very first character in your tweet is a @, then the tweet can only be seen by (a) the recipient and (b) any of your followers who are also following the recipient.

2. If the first @ is preceded by anything, even a single character, then the tweet can be seen by all your followers.

This distinction has no real logic to it, since the following forms of a reply are synonymous and of equal validity:

[a] Dear @RayBeckerman I enjoyed "Up Above My Head" sung by Sister Rosetta Tharpe
[b] I really enjoyed "Up Above My Head" sung by Sister Rosetta Tharpe, @RayBeckerman
[c] @RayBeckerman I really enjoyed "Up Above My Head" sung by Sister Rosetta Tharpe
[d] I'll tell you, @RayBeckerman I really enjoyed "Up Above My Head" sung by Sister Rosetta Tharpe

But they are treated differently. (c) will be visible only to those of your followers who also follow @RayBeckerman (So if you have a follower who loves you, loves Rosetta Tharpe, and can't stand or never heard of @RayBeckerman, that person will miss out on seeing your tweet.)

(a), (b), and (d) will be visible to all of your followers.

This distinction comes about only because of an historical anomaly.

Once upon a time Twitter offered an option in "settings" on how to treat replies and mentions [in those days they were all called replies, even if they weren't replying to anything]. You could elect to see all replies and mentions, or only those which were addressed to people you were following.

One day, in an effort to save bandwidth, Twitter -- without telling us -- removed that option, and prevented us from seeing any replies or mentions unless the person to whom they were addressed was also being followed by us.

When people became aware that many, sometimes most, of the tweets they'd been reading were now unavailable to them, and that they were unable to see conversations, there was a great uproar... for a lot of reasons. [E.g., (1) you were missing a lot, maybe even most, tweets of people you were following (2) it's much more meaningful to hear both sides of a conversation than just one side (3) for many of us, these conversations were a primary means of expanding our social circle in Twitter, since they offered a way of meeting people known to our friends, but not yet known to us; i.e. they served as 'social' introductions (See examples below).]

In order to satisfy our complaints, Twitter narrowed its definition of "replies" to tweets that begin with a @. We continued to be unable to see those unless we were following the recipient as well as the sender.

But if the @ appeared anywhere other than as the first character, we could see it, since it was no longer classified as a "reply".

So while the viewer or follower can no longer elect to see all of the sender's replies and mentions, the sender has it within his or her power to control which of his or her replies and mentions will be visible to all of his or her followers.

If you've ever wondered why some people will start a tweet with a "." or a ">", now you know why.

* [example 1: A, whom I follow, and I, are both interested in healthcare reform. One day I see A engaged in a conversation with B about healthcare reform. I might start following B at that point, knowing that (a) B is someone who is also interested in healthcare reform, and (b) B is someone who is valued and respected by my friend A. But if I never saw the tweet, I would never even know B] [example 2: A, whom I follow, has tweeted about an exhibition of an artist whose work I like. I then see A thanking someone named B for retweeting about that art exhibition. I know that B is someone who (a) probably shares my admiration for that particular artist, and (b) is someone who values and respects my friend A. But if I'd never seen the tweet, I would never know of B's existence] [example 3: I love giving my friend A a hard time. One day I see A engaged in a conversation with his friend B, who is also giving him a hard time. I might follow B, so we can both give A a hard time together :)].

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29 comments:

  1. Nice post..Before reading this i have a lot of doubt abt da mentions and who wil see it and who wil not..now i got clear cut idea about dat..Thanks for sharing ..

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  2. Hello Ray,

    Thks very much for your explanations about how to use twitter...I am a newbie, and I learned a lot from you...

    kind regards,

    Djan Leal (Santnamor2013)

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  3. Nicely done...I'll pass this on to some people I am working with that still don't get Twitter...

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  4. Thanks Ray - very informative.

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  5. Thanks for furthering my Tweet education.

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  6. Thanks Ray. Really cleared up my confusion. Very nice explained :)

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  7. Is there a way for us to make sure the recipient's entire following sees our replies as well?

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  8. Dear Jaqrat:

    Of course not. They're following him, not you.

    That would be spam.

    E.g., if you could send something to Lady Gaga, and be assured that all of her 6 million followers had to see it, that would be spam in the extreme. They're there to see Lady Gaga's tweets not yours.

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  9. Ray,
    what a great explanation of the twitter replies. i am now understanding why the new twitter app (ipad) forces ridiculous quotations when RT and adding comment. i resent the two extra "" taking space but by doing this twitter allows broader distribution of RT.

    as an aside - you just invested in me and my young stock (e)SOCWSDM and I am just thrilled todiscover your thoughtful content. thank-you
    @ldillonschalk

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  10. Why thank you, Laurie... or should I call you Social Wisdom? I can see I made a great *investment* Aren't I shrewd?

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  11. if someone mention me, my followers can see that mention too??

    example: @ronny87 is so amazing

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  12. Step 2 has confused some people. A change in wording might be:

    "If the @ at the beginning of your tweet is preceded by any other character"

    When you say

    "or @'s are preceded by any other character"

    it implies that @'s in places other than the beginning of the tweet can be modified to change the tweet behavior (I've had two questions about this today from readers of your post).

    I've also seem people start putting periods (".") in front of all their @'s in confusion.

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  13. But your formulation -- "If the @ at the beginning of your tweet is preceded by any other character" -- doesn't seem logical to me.

    If it's preceded by any other character, then it's not at the beginning of the tweet.

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  14. OK I reworded it. Hope that helps.

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  15. Hey Ray,

    Your first rule is not correct. You say...

    "If the very first character in your tweet is a @, then the tweet can only be seen by (a) the recipient and (b) any of your followers who are also following the recipient."

    The way you word this makes it sound like people might have some privacy when they tweet starting with "@" but any tweet that is not a direct message can be seen by ANYONE even if it doesn't show up on their timeline when they login. if they click on your profile, they will able to see EVERYTHING, even posts that start with "@"

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  16. HI Ray - you can see all of someone's tweets if you pull up their twitter page or do a 'search' on their name that will display all mentions to and from that person, unless an account on either end is restricted/locked by a user. On tweetdeck, you can create a search column or a mentions column and you will see all mentions for that tweetname, one will be direct mentions prefaced with '@', the other is Any combination of the name. I use this to catch up on tweets, and to see if new follows are someone I should follow back, whether they are legitimate or their topics are in-line with my interests or to see their patterns of tweeting - ie: supertweeter who is going to blow all of my not-yet-read tweets off of the screen before I have a chance to read them.

    I also use it to track down information/links for a certain topic or name in the news. Any tweet on it will all be laid out all in a row.

    I have noticed Many people forget to preface their 'general' comments with '@' when leading with a mention of a tweeter, and the tweet dies a quick death on the information highway...and they wondered why noone RT'd it.

    : )

    signed,
    anonymous info

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  17. My Typo - Preface their comments with a '.'...not a '@'....

    signed,
    anon info

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  18. Thanks, Ray! Great work. Much improved over my suggestion :)

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  19. The article is only about what you will see in your "home" or "all friends" feed, not what you can see if you go to someone's page or do searches.

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  20. Great post, I talked about this recently on my blog. I cringe whenever I see someone say "hi @name..." (when it's meant to be personal) and "@name is..." (when it's meant to be an announcement). Granted it's not obvious, but people should be able to work it out based on what they can/cannot see the @mentions of the people they're following.

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  21. Once I got used to this quirky thing, I started to love this. For ex, during twitter chats, I just put @all or @null preceding my tweets with the chat hashtag, so that none of my followers will get the tweet and only those following the chat will get that message. This will allow me to not spam my followers during chats.

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  22. Thanks for this information. I actually got this page when googling my real question, which is "who can see who I am following and who is following me?" It must be too simple for anyone to address, because I cannot find the answer anywhere. If someone looks for my name on twitter, and finds me, will they for sure my followers and who I am following? I'll pose the question here because of the knowledge displayed on the "replies" topic. Sorry for not staying on topic.

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  23. Barbara, information as to who is following you and who you are following is totally public. E.g., it can be found out on http://doesfollow.com

    For a list, one need only look through your "following" and "followers" lists, on your profile page.

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  24. Thanks for the additional good information.

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  25. Actually, this answers another question--so, the twitter profile is always public, right?

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  26. Yes, Twitter profile is always public.

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  27. Is there anyway to completely hide my tweets to others from my profile and such that it doesnt turn up on the feeds of my Followers at all?
    ie: lets say I want to thank a friend for the cake, but dont want others to know she gave me cake (favoritism, etc!). If I delete it from my profile, will she still be able to read it in hers, and that way only she can see the tweet? Or instead of deleting, is there a way I can make all my @mentions private, only between me and the other person?

    - Mickey

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  28. Dear Anonymous Mickey

    I think the answer is no to all of your questions. And I think twitter is the wrong place for you if you want privacy.

    The only way to have a message on Twitter which isn't public at all, is by direct message.

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I have a few simple comment rules:

(a) No

1. rudeness
2. falsehood
3. deception
4. unfair tactics
5. comment spam
6. shilling or trolling

(b) stay on topic, and

(c) if you're anonymous, use a handle so we can distinguish you from other anonymous commenters.

Thanks for commenting.

Ray